However, from the perspective of expected word-order co-occurrences, these word-order arrangements may not be independent traits, but may be viewed as the result of the diffusion of a single complex feature, the overall SOV word-order type with its various correlated orderings in interrelated constructions. I dont believe that until somebody tries. This is why wildimage: if we represent the hiatus in naukoobrazno with the space in wild image, wildimage will reflect my discomfort with dikobraz. (1) an event: people from islands A and C together colonized island B and created mixed population >Actually, he no longer believes that; for many years now hes excluded Songhay from his version of Nilo-Saharan. Isnt it self-evident why phylogenies are interesting? Several lower numerals in both Mande and Dogon look definitely related to Volta-Congo, but contrary to the assumptions of Indo-Europeanists and Semiticists, numbers are actually extremely borrowable. That sounds to me like the banana-language that gives us names like Inanna and Humbaba. Sadly, it was pushed away from the market by Apple and Google. I was being too snarky about Swadesh, and got carried away. I take it that the standard languages are meant. The trees are rather trivially repeatable: given the same data, the same method and the same settings (which you really ought to publish), you will get the same trees. My distinguished source was the wiki for aurochs. I think that was discussed here as well. It is possible that the author of the word meant boar. I do not know how large were those vocabularies and whether he chose 165 most basic words out of 1000 or 165 out of 165. If groups like NES are real, one is talking about far more remote relationships than within Indo-European. But its also an interesting paper. Btw, on the age of Nilo-Saharan: I just noticed that George Starostin argues (using the Starostin version of lexicostatistics) that Proto-Nubian-Nara-Tama by itself ie, a sub-branch of a sub-branch (East Sudanic) of the putative Nilo-Saharan phylum (of whose existence he remains unconvinced) is older than Indo-European by a good millennium. Of course this would predict being able to find some semantically divergent verb comparisons. Those who argue for Anatolian to have split off earliest explain that use as parallel spread of an originally more limited ending in the r-branches vs. a loss (except for the 3rd pl. @drasvi, to me Ouch! sounds like you think its wrong or wrongheaded. I dont think Piotr has put *-sr in there yet; Danish bager = baker may contain that native morpheme, suspiciously similar to the agentive morpheme in boulanger, but bageri is formed directly from the verb stem and the borrowed business morpheme. However, in a situation where the traits do coincide at a clear boundary, rare though this may be, the definition of a linguistic area to match their boundaries is relatively secure. Usual historical linguistics, by looking at morphology, can easily decode this, but blind judgment will simply be mistaken. there is no decision-making procedure to decide in the case of a mismatch. Recently I thought about -er. So you may be on to something. So what do you mean The view that Anatolian split off first is close to becoming generally accepted? A ukud abak fished in the saltwater sea, while a ukud a dugak fished in rivers and lakes. geographically isolated populations, who retain a feature that a time-traveller could observe in the common ancestor When that came to an end would be when. I always understood that the sedentary Plains tribes declined because, after the introduction of the horse, you could simply live a lot better by buffalo hunting than by farming in that climate. I wonder if the errors are just in the published paper or were actually in the study itself. Moodie and Billingtons grammar also cites examples where a usually-feminine noun is made masculine to stress not that the referent is small but that there arent very many of them, and if men are drinking tea, they may make the tea glass masculine, whereas women make it feminine. With respect to the criterion of the bundling of areal traits, some scholars had thought that such clustering at the boundaries of a linguistic area might be necessary or at least helpful for defining linguistic areas properly. Also in other words for repeated actions (as a singular phenomenon): skrigeri = screaming. [5] In German, OHG r primordial was compounded with ohso ox, giving rohso, which became the early modern Aurochs. Of course, you wont have large-scale maritime fisheries without reliable seaworthy vessels, but that sailing technology is generally older than the earliest records we have from various societies. (DE). In Arabic Hamito-Semitic remains somewhat more widely understood, but theres no original research on the subject to speak of in Arabic. Its beyond my talents and/or commitment to read the studies and be certain of the capabilities of individual software programs, or to be sure that their conclusions are always fully supported by their methods. Bantu. *reversible copula. The Migration Period vandalized the West Germanic tree pretty thoroughly. and i dont know of languages that do a salt/freshwater fish distinction. Wiktionary is strange: The singulative of scissors is a pair of scissors. These nominal classifications make themselves felt primarily in agreement systems as expressed on: determiners, adjectives, subject and object marking on verbs. Poletika was hm. The method which the adapters employed in turning the Egyptian script to their own use was dubbed the acrophonic principle by the British Egyptologist Sir Alan Gardiner. J.Pystynen: Okay, Ill bite: what is the Helsinki slang word for fish? Since you dont say what your source concludes, Ill just jump in to note that the ur- in aurochs is hardly ur- original. Certainly on libgen), and there: Biol. In the argumentation of the proponents of this approach, morphological reconstruction is a sine qua non in the establishment of genetic relationship among the languages: . Studies [] have revealed deep and substantive similarities with amniotes in the braincase ([2 papers by some of the other authors]). A Piagetian orientation will explain them in terms of general cognitive principles and shared conceptual underpinnings which provide a universal epistemological basis for acquisition of linguistic knowledge (Slobin 1985). Vocabolario Etimologico della Lingua Italiana Googling an issue raised in the paper, the probably spurious Oropom language, I wound up with a reference to a paper by Lameen. The laryngeal must have been present for the schwa secundum to be inserted; without laryngeal, we would expect ., By contrast in Uralic *kala is highly stable. But it clearly looks like were finally getting somewhere. 109-142. List 3 important characteristics of Afro-Asiatic family. So far none of these (geographically) Iranian languages look anything like Semitic. * testing word is what they teach in first grade: a word where this vowel is stressed. then they explicitly use European Neolithic, contrast it with Natufian, though mentioning some small Natufian affinities, and posit an influx from Iberia. If it were spelled urox, I think I would have less of a hard time of it. We know very little about how different factors determine the pace of language change in the first place, let alone our ignorance of the sociological settings in which these languages developed over the last two millennia. Sino-Tibetan, or Trans-Himalayan to avoid the implication that Sinitic vs. Tibeto-Burman is the basal split, spans the whole typological range. It is absolutely vital in comparative work to accept that there is a possibility that the evidence may be insufficient to establish or refute your claim. -in- is either less common, (None of the above are rhetorical questions, BTW. Farefare and Dagaare have the same etymon as Moor, though the three languages dont seem to constitute a branch of WOV together; its difficult to be sure with so many criss-crossing isoglosses. Obviously, the bit about the spread of Semitic languages is of prime LH interest; heres a relevant snippet: Figure 2 shows Spread of Iran-like ancestry and Semitic languages. All this is way beyond my pay grade, but I expect better @LH, I just dont know. Clickable IPA chart (by Weston Ruter) Itll get you to more of PIE faster; but it cant get you to the whole thing either (whole thing defined as as much as has been reconstructed so far). // Sprache und Geschichte in Afrika 4, pp. The noun class systems are certainly striking. Wiktionary also has (mtsya) 1. This was before the Day of the Trawler. it leads us to draw conclusions that we are not actually entitled to draw, Exactly. You cannot reconstruct a language phylum unless you have good arguments about which language families it includes. Sigh. That doesnt make sense in your case though. I think the main mechanism is trade. Level 3, Syria. The second is a much more general problem, a major hiatus in theory among historical linguists everywhere and not just among Nilo-Saharianists. Thats a delightful folk etymology, and Im sure youre not the only one to invent it. In the specific case of Gldemann 2008, you have a bunch of weak similarities across a vast area which need to be accounted for by some combination of common ancestry, contact, and coincidence; proposing that they are to be explained by contact and not by common ancestry is a historical hypothesis with direct relevance to questions of genetic relationship, and in this case a clearly defensible one. (Its harder to shake off than one might think, I find. If such a migration took place, then there should be scattered loaned livestock terms in Nilo-Saharan languages all the way between the Nile and Lake Chad. Semitic languages generally do not contain prefixes and to suggest that M is a formative prefix in And their method is incapable of discovering any.). I didnt think to make further enquiries Its not in the dictionaries. Or appalling. Gldemann, Tom 2008. seems greatly at variance with the actual syllabic structure of any of the languages in question. The Amorites and their congeners would appear to have followed as far as Syria before 2500 B.C. There is an abundance of both contemporary tribal and ancient East African DNA now, most recently in a large study of Prendergast et al. The list was published it in a funny place: an article Niger-Congo langauges in the Great Russian Encyclopedia. They also describe North African Amazighen and Arab genetics as being similar, with heterogeneity and many outliers, but that neighboring populations tend to mirror each other more than people elsewhere to whom theyre culturally connected. Rolf Theil (2006) concurs with the exclusion of Omotic but does not otherwise address the structure of the family. Because I would expect that hunter-gatherer societies would continue to fracture, and to survive fractally. 2014): The second factor that we believe underlies the divergence of African taurine is a high level of wild African auroch [30], [31] introgression. The comment on Pre-Sumerian substratum made my eyebrow go up. The point being that even dense scholarship cannot always unpick borrowing uncontroversially Yes, thats the sort of thing of Blenchs that I was remembering. Certainly there is reason for skepticism and continued research. The trick to make sure the noise is random enough for this to work is to make sure you arent really including the same character twice in different wordings (or, as Ive seen happen, seven times); with morphological data, that can be quite difficult (ultimately it requires more understanding of development genetics than we currently have), and with lexical data, its a failure of peer review in the original PIE is old enough for Renfrew paper. They just werent about IE and didnt get into Nature. Without such reconstruction any polemics on the limits of the NigerCongo phylum is barren.. There arent any. Forms agent nouns from verbs. And yet, I think you miss the thrust of my argument. assumed that entities like Niger-Kordofanian were actual demonstrated things, yes, this overlaps with what I meant by the stupid thing about those families. Rilly refers to his 2008 paper as having proved the affinity: https://www.academia.edu/39353995/The_Linguistic_Position_of_Meroitic. The caliciform culture, mass-produced corrugated cups and bowls, links sites across the region, including the southern Levant (EB IV). No. list for which it is diminutive. In these cricumstances racking up lists of lookalikes is childs play. https://escholarship.org/uc/item/2699d31r, Better is his treatment here of a range of Northern East Sudanic languages here: I mean, at least in the southern part of Russia a hedgehog is an animal you find in your own garden. forager from Mota, southern Ethiopia(24)to represent distinct components of ances-try plausibly found in ancient and present-dayeastern Africans, with present-day western Africans among the outgroups. I didnt think it had ever not been accepted. Leo Reinisch (1909) had already proposed linking Cushitic and Chadic while urging their more distant affinity with Egyptian and Semitic. You come across more African names in descriptive works. I had believed that ur- as meaning ancient or prototypical was a recent coinage as archaeologists came to recognize Ur as the earliest and prototypical city. Present status of many groups is uncertain, and you can never prove absence of a link anyway. Aridification of Arabia 6 kya in the paper quoted in the original post intrigued me. https://www.academia.edu/36487882/TOWARDS_THE_TRANSLATION_OF_MEROITIC_TEXTS_PROSPECTS_AND_METHODS. (although see [my paper] for alternative placements of [3 taxa]) Yes. You use it to figure out if it is etymological o or a (i or e) and write it accordingly. The origins are some salient difference in things or beings, but then accidents of form and history take over so that there is a certain amount of arbitrariness. 2) what is the English cognate of Stachel/stekel? What methods? Overall progression thus involves an evolution in construction types. The tree of IE is not an existing problem? *hik-t- > *hik-t- > Grassmann, whence Gk. Its not possible to disprove that they are related to Basque, either. I dont believe Egyptian *ramc has any known cognate in Semitic. The constants are the semantically salient human and liquid classes; elsewhere the systems get regularly remodelled and recreated. since Ive seen a tree based only on rRNA. prost. The terms Hamitic and Semitic were etymologically derived from the Book of Genesis, which describes various Biblical tribes descended from Ham and Shem, two sons of Noah. I hope for usage notes specificially. I was thinking of it more as a muddy consonant at the edge of d/g, where enunciation might surface the g-ishness, rather than a true assimilation that got reversed, or whatever the term would be. And I (amateur, admittedly) am by no means the only person who is actively interested in comparative work who has grave doubts about Greenbergs huge phyla. neighbouring populations with parallel development (diffusion is possible). @Hans, Has anyone ever proposed that another known branch of IE split before Anatolian? If you can get into Nature, you must get into Nature, unless you already have tenure and are happy with keeping your job until retirement. There is nothing keeping a linguistic river in the same channel. Sanskrit: mna (from Dravidian) 1. The other tonight will form East and West Semitic (their most recent common ancestor). Reminds me of Songhay akugun. I was confusing him with Mukarovsky, who actually had a quite different erroneous idea re Songhay and Mande anyway. Naturally, even in setting me right on ur-, it was setting me wrong on the origin of aurochs. This suggests one of two possibilities: either the word for fish entered Proto-Albanian from Latin in Imperial times, as fish was an imported item, or was later borrowed from Adriatic Romance varieties in post-imperial times as Proto-Albanian was expanding at the expense of Romance. Moreover, Oti-Volta class affixes are suffixed, not prefixed, and they are relatively loose, which expresses itself in the pervasive compounding of nouns (as bare stems) and modifiers. The failure was total, and we were not able to find a better tree by omitting any one language. That entry in the dictionary shows that I am wrong. But this should not be an issue now. However, from the perspective of expected word-order co-occurrences, these word-order arrangements are not independent traits, but reflect the diffusion of a single complex feature, the overall SOV word-order type with its tendency for the various expected coordinated orderings in typologically interrelated constructions to co-occur. Perhaps the Berbers are the descendants of the stubborn. Among their conclusions: Our estimate for the origin of Semitic (44007400 YBP) predates the first Akkadian inscriptions in the archaeological record of northern Mesopotamia by approximately 1003000 years. What would we do without computers? Vince also serves as the Katabi (Editor) of the publication of SGHthe Haymanot Journal. In. 2100 pages by now, and I do not know if he is going to write about, say, Oti-Volta:), I do not know if he is going to write about, say, Oti-Volta, Hes most welcome to do so, though I suspect hed find it a bit dull, given that the languages are all unequivocally and uncontroversially related. singulative I learned this word in a Breton lesson. turned the aspirates into affricates, and then the postvocalic short ones into long fricatives.). To spread from the Levant into Africa, Natufians would presumably have had to pass through Egypt in any event specifically, through the Delta, an area with a relatively poor archeological record exacerbated by shifting coastlines and rivers. Arabic samak(a) and t (as in Fomalhaut in Pisces) in eastern and western dialects respectively, but both are found in Quran. Newman suggested a relationship between Semitic and Hausa, but this would long remain a topic of dispute and uncertainty. endstream endobj 169 0 obj <>>>/EncryptMetadata false/Filter/Standard/Length 128/O(*b2KuGt+N$i&0i)/P -3100/R 4/StmF/StdCF/StrF/StdCF/U(q&F.,5e` )/V 4>> endobj 170 0 obj <><><>]/ON[181 0 R]/Order[]/RBGroups[]>>/OCGs[181 0 R]>>/OutputIntents[166 0 R]/Pages 161 0 R/Type/Catalog>> endobj 171 0 obj <>/Resources<>/Font<>/ProcSet[/PDF/Text]/XObject<>>>/Rotate 0/TrimBox[0 0 432 648]/Type/Page>> endobj 172 0 obj <>stream * But there arent. Because weapons of mass destruction are usually banned for fresh-water recreational use in many countries. So does his fathers, but his mothers first name looks Norwegian. Umm el-Marra, Syria. Russian Dinosaur they form dynamic, shifting relationships with one another which have nothing to do with historical phonological changes. [After all, the list was drawn up to work for European languages, so it ought not to give bizarre results for English.]. Otherwise, Id think wed see instead of Niger-Congo and Nilo-Saharan the diversity that we see in the click languages. Competing synonyms for nouns only have pairwise cases: two each of pole, bark and mouth, as well as root, vein | vein, sinew and breath, soul | soul, self; adjectives have two cases of dry and possibly big. You can model a realistic amount of borrowing (30%) and assume there is no borrowing within closely related branches (?realistic). Ryan asked about a good introduction that would explain terms like derivational suffixes so I thought about derivational suffixes and about those suffixes that are borrowed. Heres a short version. Then there is polysemy of fish. throw < OE to twist, turn (transitivity??) Modern Polish dzik 1. It probably means that foxes are not everyday familiar animals to the Kusaasi, though. Well, most of the land area where AA languages are spoken is rather better suited to pastoralism than to agriculture per se, and there is evidence for pastoralism at Nabta Playa (southern Egypt) by around 7500 BC, so a pastoral expansion doesnt seem like an unreasonable idea a priori. Of these he lists 9 most convincing (p.9, one paragraph in the center), adds 21 more (pp 9-10) and says that at least those are better than HadzaKhoi-San parallels. Well, yes, Blench is right: Gldemann here is not interested in genetic relationship. (In the place of production sense, Danish also has mejeri = dairy which is probably older than bageri. Contrary to the common misconception that the Ancient Egyptian spoke a semitic language, the root language of ancient Hebrew is Bantu languages. Noic (Russian Noy, Noah) did come time to my mind, but not Mitic, I never thought about it!!! So some of I dont have a text before my eyes to analyze. The quoted dictionary records this usage for everywhere outside the Southern Cone, which in my country is a distant world (and the Brits business anyhow). Kusaal nb /b/, Dagbani ubi chew, and it would be nice to be able to explain the remainder similarly, but that doesnt seem possible. The evidence presented in this paper seems to be mostly typological, which really means almost nothing in this context. And their method is incapable of discovering any. Diccionari catal Blench is talking nonsense there. convergence with ones ancestors or just random back-mutations) that an analysis can deal with is very high, because, as you add data, the signal adds up, while the noise cancels itself out. You have no idea how perfectly that jibes with local stereotypes. Was it the objective of these tribes to replace the sedentary tribes or even rule them? Can I ask how you got there, and how your judgment evolved? Bantu people Copyright 2023 Elsevier B.V. or its licensors or contributors. Actually, the Nilo-Saharan situation looks not unlike Ryans scenario: very old families some small, some quite large that have been in low-level contact since ever. Welsh is quite fond of making singulatives out of plurals, which then oust the original singular form, as with llygoden mouse 2. It is convenient to think that Romans borrowed the idea from Egyptians and others borrowed from Romans: it would explain the current distribution of the form. I wonder how common is creative use of class markers, though. The total number of languages in this family ranges in the hundreds. that a locational word is used in the English participle. 3. . On the other hand, the genome analysis of the KEB population suggests that it can be modeled as a mixture of IAM and Anatolian/European Neolithic, and it also presents a lower sub-Saharan component than IAM or Tarofalt. Put it this way. The earliest Semitic east of the Akkadian core in Mesopotamia that anyone knows about is the Akkadian used by second-millennium scribes in Susa and West Semitic Amorite coming down the eastern edge of the Mesopotamian lowlands from the north towards the end of the third millennium. This extends even to systems that seem to be semantic in nature. Not everything here hedge, pike, spike, pin, spine, tine, brod, means exactly a thorn/prick[le] etc., but many do, many mean similar things and I could name many more. Comparativist heaven. To confuse the issue yet further, there is yet another WOV postverbal particle *n, which expresses the so-called discontinuous past.. And I like his idea that mathematical methods might be used to prove that a particular question of language relationship is undecidable. In this regard, also compare the side-by-side existence of Spanish pez fish (as a animal) and pescado caught fish, fish (considered as food), where we might see the sort of situation that existed in Brittonic when the inherited Brittonic word (still in the River Usk, probably) was pushed out by the loanword from Latin pisctus. I just noticed I missed a whole bunch of comments here. It does not apply to specialized dictionaries, of course. PIE *Vs()rV > *VzrV > PGmc *VrV. (elegant, figuratively) merperson. and (mtcha), Javanese: iwak, ulam (ulam: 1. World Wide Words When no migration events were fit in the TreeMix analyses, African cattle were the most diverged of the taurine populations (Figures 2 and 3), but when admixture was modeled to include 17 migrations, all African cattle, except for East African Shorthorn Zebu and Zebu from Madagascar which have high indicine ancestry, were sister to European cattle and were less diverged than Asian or Anatolian cattle (Figure 4), thus ruling out a separate domestication. For me at least. Balashon On the other hand, the mere fact that the etymologies were worth extensive commentary may mean that such words are the exception rather than the rule. There were a few decades in the early and again the mid-late 20th century when either no branch at all was supposed to have split off first (just a perfect starburst), or Anatolian was supposed to be closer to western branches like Italic (implying a more symmetric tree). 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